The 1A isn't a free-for-all and the contract for boarding specifically allows Delta to refuse their service when attire poses a "risk of offense or annoyance to other passengers".
It's likely the middle fingers on the shirt that is an issue. Other people have reported wearing Trump shirts without issues. It's their airline and they have a dress code. We need to stop acting like other people need to be forced to do things our way. If the business owner wants a dress code, then they should be allowed to have a dress code. If he wanted to wear the shirt he could have driven to his location, taken a bus, or used another airline.
Really? I think if this happened to you you might be singing a different tune. This was wrong, wrong, wrong and it's all about wearing a Trump shirt and has nothing to do with the middle finger!
I wouldn't be wearing an antagonistic shirt in public in the first place. If I was, I would agree it was right to tell me to turn it inside out or switch shirts.
Do you have proof that it was solely because it was a Trump shirt and not about the middle fingers or are you just "mind-reading" the flight attendant?
I wrote (and recorded) an article about why people get offended. We really don't have control over that. Offense is in the eye of the beholder.
But physically throwing up the middle finger at people in public is an overt act of aggression. Wearing a shirt with 2 middle fingers is less aggressive, but it's still aggression. Wearing it in public with people who are less likely to have similar feelings about Trump is looking for a fight. It's a bit different than looking to offend someone. And it looks like the guy got what he wanted.
If you are offended by a Trump shirt with the middle finger then that is your problem. But you don't get to tell someone to change their shirt because you don't like the message. It was this man's right to wear it and express himself by doing so.
Have you heard of freedom of expression? That's what this was. No way should anyone tell anyone else what they can and cannot wear unless it exposes body parts that should not be exposed. This was politically motivated by the airlines and they had no right.
I agree. He apparently turned his shirt inside out, boarded, and then reversed the shirt. Just asking for trouble, I would think he wanted confrontation.
They need to designate more safe spaces for those that can't handle the middle finger. It wasn't that offensive. I find people that mutilate their children more offensive but yet there are allowed free reign and first class.
This is complete BEE ESS! Delta has NO right to force a person off a plane for wearing a shirt with Trump on it, I don't care if it shows him giving the finger! So what?? We have freedom of expression and this man's freedom was violated! I hope he sues Delta big time! They deserve to be sued! And no matter what, I will NEVER fly Delta ever!
Displaying vulgar imagery is offensive. I would feel uncomfortable sitting beside someone wearing this attitude on their shirt, and I wouldn't want my minor child subjected to seeing it.
Go woke, Go Broke! Will Delta be the next to self destruct? Along with how our entire country is self destructing. Personally I believe, all politicians, bureau-rats, globalists, and billionaires deserve, at minimum, the double barrelled finger salute. I'm offended by everything political correctness has birthed since the 1960's. Yes, my beloved mother and grandmothers would have been offended by the tshirt, but they would simply have frowned and then ignored it.
1966 - I showed up to first day of my senior h.s. year in blank white tee, levi's, and sockless leather sandals I had made myself.
The v.p. immediately sent me home to change into required 'school dress code attire'. I protested that I was Senior Class Pres and that status gave me privilege in our public school no less. Wrong! At the threat of detention, home I went. Changed clothes, mostly because the vice principle was a good friend of my Dad's. And I respected my dad immensely.
Later that year the same v.p. said I should apply for Secret Service school and training! Wtf!! No thanks.
I'm not one to give out middle finger salutes, and I won't get on airplanes anymore. So called 'authorities' will always be around. We need to figure out a way to strip them of their laws and mandates control and make their only power that of making polite suggestions to us sovereigns. We're Not their slaves.
They want us all dead and or enslaved. Do not comply.
Yes, Barbara, I'll take a car ride anytime over getting caught up in the larger scale open air public nuthouse that is currently running amok.
Sometimes I shy away from being too bold and then I remember 🤷♀️ THEY ARE BOLDER THAN BOLD! They are IN OUR FACES so WE NEED TO SHINE THE LIGHT IN THE DARKNESS!
That too, but commercial flights have more than 1 pilot, plus pilots off duty deadheading back home when they are off. But jabbed passengers as well. Shedding after all those boosters some are still taking. Don’t want to be confined in closed spaces with those people.
I’m the same. I’m done flying. I hate flying after having a flying job with the AF. I wouldn’t mind taking military hops but I used to have fly civilian 1/3 of the time to meet up with and crew a mission for the purpose of transporting patients. TSA is awful. I never had any problems with them but it was always unpleasant especially when you have to remove your shoes, getting screened & searched is never pleasant or convenient.
That aside, this guy made a poor choice for the deliberate purpose of creating controversy, & during a flight you don’t want people fighting. We have such volatility now. You never know what conditions are going to erupt on a flight anymore especially after Covid. People’s brains are being rewired.
What happened to the days when people liked to dress nice when they travel? Dressing nice when flying should be the dress code. At least No Tshirts with slogans and no jeans with holes or revealing clothing. For those people who no longer have common sense and think it’s ok to look outlandish or make a statement.
People also drink alcohol while waiting for their flight, and can be quite plastered before boarding. No way would I want to be stuck on a plane where an in-flight fight breaks out. Not my cup of tea.
It seems to be a regular occurrence. I’m not a fan of John or Jane Doe wearing their clothes in such a manner as to attract attention. They are only asking for trouble. Post a meme anonymously and discuss the controversy surrounding your meme accordingly. Moderators will now take down the slightest bit of what they define as hate speech but you will still get your point across to some before they took it down without causing a fistfight. I support the 1st amendment but still in the times we are in you have to consider safety. Just like the young lady who decided to wear a Trump t shirt going to a Trump rally in a blue city full of Trump haters. It only invites trouble. If that were my daughter I would have to ask what were you thinking? You can’t expect people to treat your opinion with respect anymore.
If he was drunk not only did Delta have the right to deny him boarding, the pilot in command had the affirmative duty to deny him boarding. 14 CFR: 91.17(b): Except in an emergency, no pilot of a civil aircraft may allow a person who appears to be intoxicated or who demonstrates by manner or physical indications that the individual is under the influence of drugs (except a medical patient under proper care) to be carried in that aircraft.
There are a lot more imperative issues that need to be addressed, IMO. Personally, wearing offensive clothing is something that is never in style - regardless of "rights". But really, with all of the critical issues beckoning for our attention, is this really something to spend time and effort on and to get emotionally worked up about? Let me think -- provocative fashion statements versus genocide, nanoparticulate chipping of the world's populations, digital currency systems, grid down scenarios, 15 - 40 million imported mercenary military aged male illegals waiting to wage war on the citizenry & infrastructure here and abroad,, the war on food, the war on children (trans issues and the mutilation of the next generation), geoengineering and poisoning of our food, air, water & soil, the shadow/deep state "government", the demise of the U.S. as a superpower orchestrated by its own leadership in concert with globalist totalitarian foes & agendas, the industrial strength propaganda and mind control, and the purposefully deceptive tactics of the military, pharmaceutical and medical industrial complexes and the suppression of holistic, heath care (versus disease management and causation), the perpetuation of junk food, poisons with prescriptions, and the sterilization of massive numbers of young people with a purposeful and concerted effort being made to rob us of our dimorphic sexual reproductivity / identities and instead make it an detached and separate industry -- while we are relegated to 15 minute cities (those who survive the ongoing, multi-faceted culling) and the intentional deconstruction of true faith and belief and the substitution of mystery and cult practices to weaken and mislead (if possible) even the "elect"? The dead and dying from the bioweapons countermeasures jabs and the ongoing plot to inject us with up to 500 more? Come on, people, think about what's really important. It aint your color TV and favorite brand of beer. Think about the fact that you're being intentionally, systematically, and routinely bombarded with electromagnetic frequencies that are maiming, sickening and slowly killing you (and those 5 G panels being placed on all of the new cell towers are to enable constant surveillance, directed energy weapons depolyment and to manipulate and control you) and that it has nothing to do with the "thermal" effects of that expensive, ever-changing piece of hardware/software with screens and (multiple) cameras & mics to which you are married and attentive to 24/7 so you can be constantly fed propaganda and fake news and entertained while the world is consumed by the evil one. This is the matrix and you are prey to the idiocracy that is blinding you to the real issues. Your constitution has long been suspended, your rights obliterated, the courts neutered and the political system overtaken and run by those who have designs on your future and the plan isn't a friendly one. Wake up! Pray! Seek the LORD while He may be found,. Call on Him and walk in His ways by the power of His spirit. Grow a backbone - there is no political white hat or any other cavalry coming over the hill to save you -- you are either a citizen of God's kingdom or a slave living under the taskmasters of this world. One or the other -- straddling two worlds is not possible. Since you can still choose, you then have the power to make a difference -- not in what people wear, but in the trajectory of their destiny.
The only real power ordinary people have is where and how they spend their money. This is what rightly scares the hell out of Israel and its lobbying organizations with regards to BDS. Delta should start to feel the squeeze now.
Albeit I am a Trump supporter this shirt was in bad taste. Showing the middle finger well President Trump would not do that and he probably should have been a little bit smarter for his choice of attire. I know you’re all going to come after me 1A and everything else but the middle finger is uncalled for. I’m sure there were kids in that plane too just poor judgement on his part.
That's ridiculous
It not a rights violation because it’s not a government entity. The constitution puts limits ONLY on the state.
Exactly.
The 1A isn't a free-for-all and the contract for boarding specifically allows Delta to refuse their service when attire poses a "risk of offense or annoyance to other passengers".
#NeverFlyDelta
#NeverFly and avoid TSA intrusion.
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It's likely the middle fingers on the shirt that is an issue. Other people have reported wearing Trump shirts without issues. It's their airline and they have a dress code. We need to stop acting like other people need to be forced to do things our way. If the business owner wants a dress code, then they should be allowed to have a dress code. If he wanted to wear the shirt he could have driven to his location, taken a bus, or used another airline.
Really? I think if this happened to you you might be singing a different tune. This was wrong, wrong, wrong and it's all about wearing a Trump shirt and has nothing to do with the middle finger!
I wouldn't be wearing an antagonistic shirt in public in the first place. If I was, I would agree it was right to tell me to turn it inside out or switch shirts.
Do you have proof that it was solely because it was a Trump shirt and not about the middle fingers or are you just "mind-reading" the flight attendant?
Same here. I don’t enjoy offending people. That not how you win the argument.
I wrote (and recorded) an article about why people get offended. We really don't have control over that. Offense is in the eye of the beholder.
But physically throwing up the middle finger at people in public is an overt act of aggression. Wearing a shirt with 2 middle fingers is less aggressive, but it's still aggression. Wearing it in public with people who are less likely to have similar feelings about Trump is looking for a fight. It's a bit different than looking to offend someone. And it looks like the guy got what he wanted.
If the shirt had depicted a middle finger without Trump’s likeness, I am willing to bet nobody would have even noticed.
Sorry but this is a little too snow flakey for me.
If you are offended by a Trump shirt with the middle finger then that is your problem. But you don't get to tell someone to change their shirt because you don't like the message. It was this man's right to wear it and express himself by doing so.
Have you heard of freedom of expression? That's what this was. No way should anyone tell anyone else what they can and cannot wear unless it exposes body parts that should not be exposed. This was politically motivated by the airlines and they had no right.
I agree. He apparently turned his shirt inside out, boarded, and then reversed the shirt. Just asking for trouble, I would think he wanted confrontation.
They need to designate more safe spaces for those that can't handle the middle finger. It wasn't that offensive. I find people that mutilate their children more offensive but yet there are allowed free reign and first class.
This is complete BEE ESS! Delta has NO right to force a person off a plane for wearing a shirt with Trump on it, I don't care if it shows him giving the finger! So what?? We have freedom of expression and this man's freedom was violated! I hope he sues Delta big time! They deserve to be sued! And no matter what, I will NEVER fly Delta ever!
Displaying vulgar imagery is offensive. I would feel uncomfortable sitting beside someone wearing this attitude on their shirt, and I wouldn't want my minor child subjected to seeing it.
Trump, fine.
The sexual innuendo is not fine.
Agree. I don't need to see it.
When speech (or a t shirt) that we abhor is protected then speech (and a t shirt) we adore is secured.
"I may not agree with what you are saying. I may not even like it, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it.
- Voltaire -
Go woke, Go Broke! Will Delta be the next to self destruct? Along with how our entire country is self destructing. Personally I believe, all politicians, bureau-rats, globalists, and billionaires deserve, at minimum, the double barrelled finger salute. I'm offended by everything political correctness has birthed since the 1960's. Yes, my beloved mother and grandmothers would have been offended by the tshirt, but they would simply have frowned and then ignored it.
1966 - I showed up to first day of my senior h.s. year in blank white tee, levi's, and sockless leather sandals I had made myself.
The v.p. immediately sent me home to change into required 'school dress code attire'. I protested that I was Senior Class Pres and that status gave me privilege in our public school no less. Wrong! At the threat of detention, home I went. Changed clothes, mostly because the vice principle was a good friend of my Dad's. And I respected my dad immensely.
Later that year the same v.p. said I should apply for Secret Service school and training! Wtf!! No thanks.
I'm not one to give out middle finger salutes, and I won't get on airplanes anymore. So called 'authorities' will always be around. We need to figure out a way to strip them of their laws and mandates control and make their only power that of making polite suggestions to us sovereigns. We're Not their slaves.
They want us all dead and or enslaved. Do not comply.
Yes, Barbara, I'll take a car ride anytime over getting caught up in the larger scale open air public nuthouse that is currently running amok.
I won't fly either. Don't like the TSA invasion and much prefer a road trip.
Right there with you Dr. Margaret ! The thought of 'jabbed' pilots at the controls is very disconcerting to me. Understatement!
Bravo to you for your tremendous posts. Thank you so much for giving your all, and God Bless you with continued good strength and resolve.
OH! Thank you!
Sometimes I shy away from being too bold and then I remember 🤷♀️ THEY ARE BOLDER THAN BOLD! They are IN OUR FACES so WE NEED TO SHINE THE LIGHT IN THE DARKNESS!
AMEN! Keep on Shining !!
🙌
That too, but commercial flights have more than 1 pilot, plus pilots off duty deadheading back home when they are off. But jabbed passengers as well. Shedding after all those boosters some are still taking. Don’t want to be confined in closed spaces with those people.
Me too. To get on a plane, it would have to be a huge, unavoidable emergency.
I’m the same. I’m done flying. I hate flying after having a flying job with the AF. I wouldn’t mind taking military hops but I used to have fly civilian 1/3 of the time to meet up with and crew a mission for the purpose of transporting patients. TSA is awful. I never had any problems with them but it was always unpleasant especially when you have to remove your shoes, getting screened & searched is never pleasant or convenient.
That aside, this guy made a poor choice for the deliberate purpose of creating controversy, & during a flight you don’t want people fighting. We have such volatility now. You never know what conditions are going to erupt on a flight anymore especially after Covid. People’s brains are being rewired.
What happened to the days when people liked to dress nice when they travel? Dressing nice when flying should be the dress code. At least No Tshirts with slogans and no jeans with holes or revealing clothing. For those people who no longer have common sense and think it’s ok to look outlandish or make a statement.
People also drink alcohol while waiting for their flight, and can be quite plastered before boarding. No way would I want to be stuck on a plane where an in-flight fight breaks out. Not my cup of tea.
It seems to be a regular occurrence. I’m not a fan of John or Jane Doe wearing their clothes in such a manner as to attract attention. They are only asking for trouble. Post a meme anonymously and discuss the controversy surrounding your meme accordingly. Moderators will now take down the slightest bit of what they define as hate speech but you will still get your point across to some before they took it down without causing a fistfight. I support the 1st amendment but still in the times we are in you have to consider safety. Just like the young lady who decided to wear a Trump t shirt going to a Trump rally in a blue city full of Trump haters. It only invites trouble. If that were my daughter I would have to ask what were you thinking? You can’t expect people to treat your opinion with respect anymore.
If he was drunk not only did Delta have the right to deny him boarding, the pilot in command had the affirmative duty to deny him boarding. 14 CFR: 91.17(b): Except in an emergency, no pilot of a civil aircraft may allow a person who appears to be intoxicated or who demonstrates by manner or physical indications that the individual is under the influence of drugs (except a medical patient under proper care) to be carried in that aircraft.
What a nation of infants we are.
Paradoxically their actions have set in motion the Streisand Effect.
Infants who only care about "me".
There are a lot more imperative issues that need to be addressed, IMO. Personally, wearing offensive clothing is something that is never in style - regardless of "rights". But really, with all of the critical issues beckoning for our attention, is this really something to spend time and effort on and to get emotionally worked up about? Let me think -- provocative fashion statements versus genocide, nanoparticulate chipping of the world's populations, digital currency systems, grid down scenarios, 15 - 40 million imported mercenary military aged male illegals waiting to wage war on the citizenry & infrastructure here and abroad,, the war on food, the war on children (trans issues and the mutilation of the next generation), geoengineering and poisoning of our food, air, water & soil, the shadow/deep state "government", the demise of the U.S. as a superpower orchestrated by its own leadership in concert with globalist totalitarian foes & agendas, the industrial strength propaganda and mind control, and the purposefully deceptive tactics of the military, pharmaceutical and medical industrial complexes and the suppression of holistic, heath care (versus disease management and causation), the perpetuation of junk food, poisons with prescriptions, and the sterilization of massive numbers of young people with a purposeful and concerted effort being made to rob us of our dimorphic sexual reproductivity / identities and instead make it an detached and separate industry -- while we are relegated to 15 minute cities (those who survive the ongoing, multi-faceted culling) and the intentional deconstruction of true faith and belief and the substitution of mystery and cult practices to weaken and mislead (if possible) even the "elect"? The dead and dying from the bioweapons countermeasures jabs and the ongoing plot to inject us with up to 500 more? Come on, people, think about what's really important. It aint your color TV and favorite brand of beer. Think about the fact that you're being intentionally, systematically, and routinely bombarded with electromagnetic frequencies that are maiming, sickening and slowly killing you (and those 5 G panels being placed on all of the new cell towers are to enable constant surveillance, directed energy weapons depolyment and to manipulate and control you) and that it has nothing to do with the "thermal" effects of that expensive, ever-changing piece of hardware/software with screens and (multiple) cameras & mics to which you are married and attentive to 24/7 so you can be constantly fed propaganda and fake news and entertained while the world is consumed by the evil one. This is the matrix and you are prey to the idiocracy that is blinding you to the real issues. Your constitution has long been suspended, your rights obliterated, the courts neutered and the political system overtaken and run by those who have designs on your future and the plan isn't a friendly one. Wake up! Pray! Seek the LORD while He may be found,. Call on Him and walk in His ways by the power of His spirit. Grow a backbone - there is no political white hat or any other cavalry coming over the hill to save you -- you are either a citizen of God's kingdom or a slave living under the taskmasters of this world. One or the other -- straddling two worlds is not possible. Since you can still choose, you then have the power to make a difference -- not in what people wear, but in the trajectory of their destiny.
Yes, and thank you Richard.
Exactly. The world has slid into darkness. And the guy with the offensive T-shirt is just one more symptom of that.
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The only real power ordinary people have is where and how they spend their money. This is what rightly scares the hell out of Israel and its lobbying organizations with regards to BDS. Delta should start to feel the squeeze now.
I dropped my Delta Gold status and stopped flying them in 2021 after the forced jabs- this is just a peek into Corporate woke BS - YES BOYCOTT
Strong work!
Albeit I am a Trump supporter this shirt was in bad taste. Showing the middle finger well President Trump would not do that and he probably should have been a little bit smarter for his choice of attire. I know you’re all going to come after me 1A and everything else but the middle finger is uncalled for. I’m sure there were kids in that plane too just poor judgement on his part.